Bill Powers

Bill talks Nicole's talking head piece, Jaclyn's body-concious work, and Mark's promise as a commercial photographer.

on Jul 28, 20100

 

To represent order Nicole built a talking head and the funny thing is that her contraption kept breaking down whenever someone tried to activate it. She said her impetus was the restrictions of the social contract, but I think what some people read as shoddy construction on her part actually made it ten times better than if the piece had operated smoothly. Nicole's rubber band man got me thinking about Bruce Nauman's "Hanging Heads" and how the consistency of our daily lives always runs on a thread, a synapse, a spark we take for granted. And while the black hole in Abdi's painting was poorly rendered, his subject matter, "The Allegory of the Cave," leaves us so much to contemplate when presented in the Bravo television forum. Plato talks about prisoners inside this cave being chained to a wall and only getting glimmers of reality from the shadowy figures they see cast upon the rocks, until they are free to witness the true forms existing in the outside world. I love the crossover concepts with reality TV present in Nicole and Abdi's coupling. Watching the episode, I liked "Order and Chaos" better than "Male and Female." My thanks to Ryan McGinness for pushing Abdi to ask himself the tough questions when he felt lost about the direction his work should go.

To be fair to Jaclyn, the only instances she has done well on the show is when she's been willing to make body-conscious work, so I don't think any of the judges can fault her for disrobing at this point. Also, for a painting depicting a woman mid-masturbation it was pretty unsexy, which definitely helped the piece. I felt a spirit of coercion in her pose, the way she covered her breasts and hid her face, that overall lent it more agony than ecstasy.

Maybe it wasn't fair to eliminate Mark after Peregrine nudged him into creating a narrative around his stomach scar, but – come on - his take on heaven looked like a bad ad for a day spa. Clearly China had a hard time sending him home and I think as a commercial photographer Mark shows some real promise. His portrait of Erik from the first challenge remains his best work from the series.

62 comments
Ann Healey
Ann Healey

I would like to ask Bill why he felt the need to ask Jaclyn if she masturbated standing up. If this had been a self portrait of a male artist masturbating whilst standing up, I do believe that that question would not have been posed. In showing this act, Jacyln's comment was that she was taking power of her body, but with this question, Bill, the male observer, once again took power back and stripped the artist on every level. I would like to hear Bill's justification of this comment (and yes, I understand that he said that he was questioning the 'authenticity' of her piece, but I put forward that this question was ONLY asked because the artist was female and his male ego wanted to take control back)

It's TV, peeps!
It's TV, peeps!

Do you think there is anything wrong with suggesting it may be wrong to do so much body altering? I'm just wondering... I don't know how I feel about exhibitionism, you're right, all artists have it on some level, but what's wrong with just saying that people do that stuff to themselves because they can't accept themselves the way they are? There is something wrong with that. It's a big question that stretches FAR beyond the scope of this lackluster TV show, but might be worth discussion. Jacqueline might actually mature more as an artist if she, and others like her, dealt with their narcissism and lack of confidence.

ArtAttacked
ArtAttacked

I was so glad to see Jackie sent home because I was tired of seeing her confuse, "Feminism" with "exhibitionism." Granted, all art is the result of exhibitionism to some degree. But it's a shame it wasn't one of the nudie pieces that got her sent home as it confirmed a suspicion I've been having. I bet she would still be on if she used the naked-in-rain or whatever that pic she took of herself the day after.

But the piece she submitted last week got me wondering. What if she painted a woman who wasn't silicone-enhanced and Brazilian waxed and didn't look conventionally attractive as she does? What if instead of giving the same kind of image you can find all over the internet (hardly "edgy" judges), she gave us a not-so-gym-toned woman, as she naturally is, masturbating? I would find that more empowering, as it says to me, "I can feel good regardless of what you think about me and how women should look." And I would find that more edgy. At least it challenges an ideal. Jackie's masturbation self-portrait challenges nothing. And I suspect the judges would have had several problems if the woman in the painting masturbating wasn't as attractively altered as Jackie is, even if she was doing the same exact thing.

There's nothing wrong with being an exhibitionist or even getting cosmetic surgery and waxing done. Just own up to it, embrace it. You do not help women by saying that your work is empowering when it always centers around men looking at you and what they are seeing is someone who has altered her appearance to conform to a specific definition of beauty that involves considerable pain to achieve. I could have some respect for her if she just admitted her to her narcissism.

new art
new art

I think Abdi is the one artist that people can relate to. Who wants art that is a puzzle to be pieced together? Hope that Abdi wins, he is young and fresh. His work is from the soul and has immediate meaning to the viewers. Miles is an overthinking,about to drive himself nuts- longing to be artist. His type has fooled people into thinking crap is art because they don't understand it. Art should be understood,and left to the viewers interpretation-not-fragments of a warped mind that makes you question if all the pieces are there.

Madpotter
Madpotter

I had such high hopes for this show and now just dread watching what each week presents to the views. As a working artist and watching the show each week with my daughter, majoring in art therapy, it has opened huge dialogue between us and for that I will be grateful the show aired.

As diverse as our opinions are each week we are both resigned to the fact Miles had hoodwinked the judges and will probably win......... please oh please shock us.

tagboy
tagboy

Miles gets to judge and also compete? This is the second time the judges have let him, and only him, critique one of his peers during the judging.

Miles is a creep, and he'll probably win. Then bravo will do a show just about him and how he cons the art world..... now that would actually be good..........

Hank Stamper
Hank Stamper

This comment is in response to KCAI's comment:

"No one mentions Mark's hypocritical discomfort at posing nude- his work is just that- disrobed women."

I think you misunderstood Mark's reluctance to pose nude. It was not hypocritical and has nothing to do with him not wanting to do it for relgious or moral grounds. He just is not comfortable taking his shirt off because he is overweight. Take it from someone who has battled weight my whole life, Mark does not feel his body is beautiful. On the other hand there is nothing hypocritical about focusing on nude females in his work. He finds them beautiful.

Webster's Online Dictionary defines hypocrite as follows:

--a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion --a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

I don't see that fitting Mark's situation.

KCAI
KCAI

No one mentions Mark's hypocritical discomfort at posing nude- his work is just that- disrobed women. Their often draped in little more than cliches.

Ken Lasher
Ken Lasher

Face it. You really like it when Jaclyn is nude or partially nude. Miles didn't have to talk her into anything. As soon as I saw her pick Man vs Woman, I knew she would be naked again.

When did a black tar wall with holes in it become the essence of man's struggles. Miles is just a hack and a minimalist one at that. His art doesn't move me or inspire me.

I felt sorry for Mark. He was very uncomfortable about being the subject of the Heaven vs Hell piece. He got blasted for Peregrine's concept. She should have been the one to go.

Mj97405
Mj97405

Miles, Miles...Jackie, too, are the beautiful people, and will be rewarded for their rather one-dimensional attempts. That Miles could talk Jackie into self-pleasuring really plays into the hands (Oh, My!) of the judges; they want to see the beautiful people, too. It's all rather bad form, I would say, when Plato's Cave is not even exlained to the other artists in his defense. I will continue to watch, but come on, judges, lead them away from group things (when else would an artist join with another to create anything?), that could even allow them to repeat themselves. Miles = Minimum (!), Jackie = her body (!).

Marganne
Marganne

I would have liked to see a different system of judging. Elimination based on one piece is inconsequential. A point system building with each piece would supply a realistic achievement.... unseen by the judges until all votes/points were in each week. There would be no overall losers each week unless an artist was the 'loser' three times in a row." A bad piece one week could be compensated for excellence the next week. As the points build, the excitement grows. The artist with the highest scoring points overall would be the winner. (Still not a great system, but better than the one this season.)

AMC32
AMC32

You need to some actual judges that explain why the contestants have been eliminated. You've sent the best artists home for reasons other than their art. If Abdi goes home this week, then the show in New York will be boring and Mediocre and full of pretentious crap, especially if Miles or Peregrine wins. This show has quickly turned into another one of your crappy 'Reality' shows Bravo.

qman99
qman99

I find this show facinating, as it provides insights into both art pieces, presentation, "artists", and judges insights that I have never considered. I'm impressed at how various artists envision their pieces and the diverse range of art materials and techniques they choose to make their statements. I like how "out-of-the-box" these artists think and create their various challenges. Wouldn't it be revealing to give the exact, same show assignmens to famous artists from past times and genre's, then "judge" them by the panel? Imagine how these diverse artists would interpret some of the challenges in this show: Monet, Gaugin, Modigliani, Picasso, Dali, Rembandt, Van Gogh, and Pollack? In roughly the same period, what would be the result of a Michelangelo, Bernini, Raphael, and Da Vinci challenge?

lnwyd
lnwyd

The problem is that nothing produced so far has been a "great work of art." The winners and losers are determined by works that succeed in meeting the challenges. Better, more thoughtful challenges--and a bit more time for the participants--might have produced objects with more artistic merit.

Then there is the problem of the television and the editing. Little of what is shown translates across the medium; I can think the idea is good, the process interesting and still not be able to *see* the thing that resulted. The editorial glee at piecing together titillating and provocative footage to generate explosive reaction rather than thoughtful response makes it all worse.

Jaci and Miles easily won this challenge. Their pieces were distinct and separate and yet related in a way the judges were looking for.

China Chow called it a "true work of art." It isn't. But then China is a real piece of work.

material girl
material girl

Has anyone noted that in Miles' bio, it is stated that he is a recent graduate of the University of Minnesota...but in the video "Meet Miles" he says he went to the university for a couple of years but left and never got a degree. He then says he learned on his own from that point on. The BS continues. What a disappointing series. I'd like to see at least 3 professional artists on the judging team. Subjective as art criticism is...it should at least be based on professional opinion. Jerry Saltz disappoints me as he has seen through the likes of Damien Hurst in several crits he's written. Why does he continue to drool over Miles?

Random Fan
Random Fan

Mark was my favorite and I was pulling for him to win. You could feel a real air of sadness when he was eliminated.

So now I boldly predict Miles will win. What a surprise.

William Wray
William Wray

Miles is good. The fine art world is fond of using the put down of "Craftsmanship" when condescending to skilled artists, yet Miles the brilliant Craftsman is winning all the way with clever manipulation of the participants and a skill saw. He played everyone and is being openly rewarded for it. Such a wonderful example of how the art world works when there is more to your manipulation ability and less to your art than the art world judges bring to it. Do almost nothing with your art; let the judges put depth of meaning into it. I Love how this show reflects the art world!! Encouraging Jaclyn to do herself nude again was a brilliant ploy by Miles to make it seem like she's the artist repeating herself when in fact Miles has done variations of the same minimalist theme. The kid makes me want to be on the show just to try and beat him at his game. I do wish the producers would stop featuring someone chastising him every show, it always gives away that they are going to be voted off, killing the suspense.

KennyC
KennyC

My question for the judges is this, do you really like the works you choose or are you choosing works that you feel make you seem to know what you are talking about? I rely on the old saying "I may not know Art, but I know what I like". I know that I don't like this show in this format. It has the potential to bring good art to the masses, but as is, fails miserably!

Kat23
Kat23

I cannot believe the guest judge was allowed to manipulate Jaclyn with his 'honest answer' request. Asking Miles if he had ever hit a wall was not in the same league as the question about masturbating standing up. I'm beginning to wonder if the true market for this show is supposed to be adolescent boys. You've eliminated my wish to share this show with art students.

I'm a longtime Project Runway fan, though my art-making of choice is visual art, so I enjoy the process of watching the artists work, but judging leaves much to be desired. Maybe it would help if judges could explain their choices, educate the public. I'm afraid this show turns more people against art than leading them to love and understand it.

monkeydoodle
monkeydoodle

I really like the show. I find the contestant's squabbles and jabbing of one another entertaining. I like to watch them struggle to think of something to fill the assignment. I like to think of what I would do in their position. Their time constraints are ridiculous. A week would have been a better time limit. There are far too few art shows on TV. Let's keep the show and improve on it.

Just A Stupid Artist
Just A Stupid Artist

I might have previously mentioned about how absolutely one-dimensional the judges are (being critics and curators), but I don’t understand why they behave so lofty and knowledgeable when to educated artists they really seem so ignorant. For example, and pleaser know that I am NOT trying to defend the contestant’s poor work on this episode, because ALL of it left a lot to be desired, but seriously… Jerry Salz and Bill Powers should be ashamed that at the time neither could point out the concept of Abdi’s work (courtesy of Nicole’s loose memory) was actually not only poorly based on PLATO’s allegory of the cave (not Socrates’!), but that the Plato’s allegory was not inverted or “crossover” as Bill tries to redeem himself now… there was actually NO referencing and NO interpretation of Plato’s allegory at all – so it should NOT have been referenced verbally at all – THIS, again shows the problem I have with the judges dubiously representing themselves as experts AND insecurely asking for the concept verbally before giving their take! It’s offensive!… We knew Abdi was naive and didn’t know what Nicole was talking about, but the judges, Salz? Powers? … come on!… They think they’re educated experts… Hmm… and NONE OF THESE JUDGES at the time of review knew that Plato’s allegory used the concept of a cave as a place of complete ‘control’ and the outside world was unknown, unpredictable ‘chaos’... These points should have been made by the judges to express that Abdi/Nicole need to focus on what each knows to express a true/honest ‘POV’. Obviously this lack of understanding of their muse/inspiration should have sent Abdi or Nicole packing, because they couldn’t even properly reference what their inspiration was! It shouldn’t have been Mark to go (his fault was only in lack of time & trying to cooperate with Peregrinne – and perhaps only because these same judges sent Eric home for NOT cooperating!? …) … Also, is this show rigged by Miles’ rich Stepfather or something? You let him discredit other artists because he is insecure about how his work suffers… he has a concept, but no POV. In fact his concept had more to do with Chaos than it did Masculinity... More importantly, as I said in a previous post the judges asking for the artist to verbally explain the piece before commenting and making their judgments does not even allow the art to speak for itself… nonetheless these artist are FAR too underdeveloped… and SO are the judges! Get some real talent Bravo… you are going to have to get real Artists as BOTH Judges and Contestants if you want this series to work…

borbor
borbor

Peregrine took in none of Mark's input, leaving him no choice but to go ahead with her idea of photographing his scar as a starting point. Brave of him. I actually found his work moving, while hers was a mess that she kept adding on to until the buzzer went off. I don't believe in heaven as a place where we go when we die if we were good and did what God wants, but I got a sense of sublime peace after suffering from Mark's work, which I suppose is what heaven is supposed to be about.

JP9Fine
JP9Fine

The show would be much better if all 4 judges weren't all avid fans of conceptual art, and no other approach. When I was an art student one of the most engaging aspects of a critique was having people with different and passionate views on art disagree and debate, including the artist under scrutiny themselves. The fact that the critic, gallery owner, gallerist, rotating celebrity artists and resident celebrity China agree on almost every episode is disappointing art discourse, and boring television. Not to mention that the judges’ self-contradictions in promoting the only kind of art they like really undermines any lingering credibility. As an artist I was excited by this show, perhaps an opportunity to reinvigorate art appreciation within the ‘average man on the street’, drive attendance at galleries, museums, etc. Show households across America that being an artist means hard work, strong vision and some level of craft skill set to accomplish the physical manifestation of your ideas. The judges have gone out of their way to show people exactly what they expected. A New York art scene that is so bloated with smug, elitist self-satisfaction that unfortunately coddles personalities over actual artists. The judges push for self expression, but only reward this if it’s obscure in meaning and esoteric in presentation. Mark’s image may have been cliché to the NY elite. However I think more people can connect with Mark’s traditional religious depiction of Heaven than yet another of Miles’ conceptual pieces. Maybe some of the judges should grab a copy of good old Janson’s art history textbook. Long before there was their regional hip insider slang, the human experience has been expressed for thousands of years through literal, figurative depictions of the human form, and of divinity expressed through light. This was passed off as cheesy (sorry, passé) by the judges. The truly cheesy moment was when guest artist judge (forget his name) asked to see Mark’s scar. Cheeky little scamp. Perhaps it would have been more interesting if he asked if Mark had any religious beliefs (which he did) for depicting Heaven in such a classically Catholic manner. But hey, they already picked Miles episodes ago. Miles who represents the typical artist who alienates viewers who don’t subscribe to “Arte Farte” magazine, but want to enjoy art and have a deeper meaning communicated to them through interesting visual media. You see, Miles can talk the art college my dog ate my homework BS, he knows and praises all of the judge’s guest artist darlings. Unfortunately his work lacks one rather important element; visual prowess. This presents a serious problem for a visual artists be they sculptors, painters, printmakers, work in electronic or other media. This even applies to professional hoax (sorry, ‘conceptual’) artistes like Miles who is coddled by the judges but laughed at by anybody, even educated people, outside of Manhattan. Bottom line his work is repetitive, and boring. In a gallery I would pass by his work as the visually unimaginative, I love the sweet scent of my own farts type of work that it is. Common materials, we get it. Some long-winded IDEA that would be better expressed in a typed essay vs. a visual medium, we get it. Anything figurative by Abdi, Ryan or Mark is immediately dismissed as banal. Yet have the judges been in an art college or ‘low rent’/non-hipster gallery in the last 20 years? They’re clogged with badly constructed wood, tar and cigarette butt ‘found object’ sculptures made by students too lazy or untalented to learn the basic foundations of drawing, composition, etc. Bravo! Bravo has once again made the fine art world look like the big, irrelevant, con job that 98% of Americans suspect it is.

Wm Wray
Wm Wray

Lets try this again. I love Miles. The fine art world is fond of using the put down of "Craftsmanship" when condescending to skilled artists, yet Miles the brilliant Craftsman is winning all the way with clever manipulation of the participants and a skill saw. He played everyone and is being openly rewarded for it. Such a wonderful example of how the art world works when there is more to your manipulation ability and less to your art than the art world wants to bring to it. Do almost nothing; let the judges put depth of meaning into it. I LOVE IT!! Encouraging Jaclyn to do herself nude again was a brilliant ploy to make it seem like she's the artist repeating herself when in fact Miles has done variations of the same minimalist thing, but in comparison to her he seems way more original. The kid makes me want to be on the show just to try and beat his game. I do wish the producers would stop featuring someone chastising him every show, it always gives away that they are going to be voted off, killing the suspense.

firetop
firetop

The show never seems to fail to disappoint in that its always disappointing. And once again the in crowd has shown what jerks they can be. Miles manipulated those around him( he even admitted to lying to Ryan just to get his tar so he could use it),created the next super safe boring work of art,dictated the direction of the team piece and the judges have fallen for the con-again. Even more disturbing is the behavior of others in the cast as well. Jaclyn continues her mundane need to rely solely on her body to express herself and was there sniping about Mark with the others.And I have to agree- how pretentious and self-serving Peregrine is. She complained Mark gave her nothing to work with . Really? That's just an excuse.The minute the pressure was on it wasnt her inability at fault but what Mark didnt give her. Total BS!! And why is that golden boy Miles continues to act as a judge? The others when given the opportunity need to speak up and sound off on miles as well.Hes not perfect so quit acting like he walks on water. And I dont think that anyone's accepted yet that in the end only 1 person will be there. So savor the moments because they are fleeting. Plus at this point short of admitting it it seems that Miles has already won.

KennyC
KennyC

The thing I find comforting in the elimination of Mark is that he no longer has to endure the pretentiousness of the judges and the caddiness of his competitors. He clearly has the potential to have a very prosperous career where as Miles has been exposed as a mediocre artist with the talent to B.S. his "Point of View" to sell it to judges all to eager to see the obscure rather than the obvious. In reality, Miles work is only palatable to snobby wanna be artsy types and Marks work, based on blogs and other forums, is appreciated by people from all walks of life. Mark and Eric, I am happy that you were a part of this failed experiment of a show.

AKJJ
AKJJ

I'm disappointed to see Mark go. Too bad the show couldn't eliminate a Judge each week. Critics...this is and always will be the problem with the artworld. Maybe the show should take on the concept of other reality programs and let the audience decide what is good and what is bad. I'm disappointed in the results but to Mark's credit...he left the show honorably and did not engage in the childish trash talking that has become "the standard" for this show.

Glenn Money
Glenn Money

Mark should have won this round, in my opinion. Innovation is more interesting than iteration, in my eye; and Mark's piece seemed newer, and more challenging than some of the other artist's "safe", even "derivative" choices in their work. That said, all this made for good television; so perhaps the unexpected judging was to generate controversy.

Just A Stupid Artist
Just A Stupid Artist

I might have previously mentioned about how absolutely one dimensional the judges are (being critics and curators), but as pointed out from the first episode they are also extremely ignorant! I am NOT trying to defend the contestant’s poor work on this episode, because ALL of it left a lot to be desired, but seriously… Jerry Salz and Bill Powers should be ashamed that they could not point out that the concept of Abdi’s work (courtesy of Nicole’s loose memory) was actually based on PLATO’s allegory of the cave… We knew Abdi was young and didn’t know what Nicole was talking about, but the judges? … come on… They think they’re educated… Hmm… and NONE OF THESE JUDGES knew the allegory used the concept of a cave as a place of complete control and the outside world was chaos... These points should have been made. Obviously this lack of understanding should have sent Abdi or Nicole packing, because they couldn’t even properly reference what their inspiration was! It shouldn’t have been Mark to go (his fault was only in lack of time trying to cooperate – perhaps because Eric went home for not cooperating!? …) … Also, is this show rigged by Miles’ rich Stepfather or something? You let him discredit other artists because he is insecure about how his work suffers… he has a concept, but no POV. In fact his concept had more to do with Chaos than it did Masculinity... More importantly, as I said in a previous post the judges asking for the artist to verbally explain the piece before commenting and making their judgments does not even allow the art to speak for itself… nonetheless these artist are FAR too underdeveloped… and SO are the judges! Get some real talent Bravo… you are going to have to get real Artists as BOTH Judges and Contestants if you want this series to work…

Ky viewer
Ky viewer

I couldn't agree more with mc and Farce comments. My sentiments exactly.

As for Bill Power's comment "To be fair to Jaclyn, the only instances she has done well on the show is when she's been willing to make body-conscious work, so I don't think any of the judges can fault her for disrobing at this point." OH YES we can! The judges and Miles keep manipulating her into thinking that this kind of art is the only thing she is good at creating. Shame on you!

Drawn
Drawn

Miles painted a wall with back tar and punched a hole in it. Come on judges! WAKE UP! Stop patting him on the back for these boring pieces.

George
George

Mark's work was very realistic. I say this as being someone who has teetered on the edge of death on a stainless emergency room table with doctors frantically saving my life as it was slipping away. The honest truth for me was when the pain was gone and total peace set in and I accepted the pending death. I believed that it was a good time to die, all was well at that point. I think Mark conveyed that feeling for me. He described what his religious teaching had instilled in him about heaven and he got pretty damn close, at least by my own experience. The ONLY critic that matters is the one who writes a check for your work, otherwise everyone is a critic.

what do I have to do to get my post online???
what do I have to do to get my post online???

The judges' heads are so easily turned by a pair of - gotta admit it - a great set of cans. But this makes good art week after week? I've never seen such a self-proclaimed "shy girl" strip so often on national tv. Guys...buy a Playboy before next week's competition and get it out of your system!!

TobinRJ
TobinRJ

I loved the show to start, but feel every challenge is based solely on conception rather than talent. Miles is not a team player, and manipulative. He continually has voiced his opinion during critiques, and can do this why? He acts as if he will have a breakdown if he can't interupt on where his problem is with anothers' piece of work at that moment. I feel the judges have put him on a pedestal, that there is no need to keep watching. I remind myself this is a reality show, and watch what unfolds infront of cameras, but I do feel this should be considered by the judges. Jacqueline and Miles are playing the reality show part of the game, and even though Miles has unique ideas, I don't find him "The Next Great Artist". I find both egotistical, and too simple. Miles talks the talk, walks the walk, that's it. I feel Abdi has the most "talent".

Moi
Moi

Bill, keep your day job until this show is revamped. I'll give you ten bucks to vote Peregrine off the island.

VVVVVVViewer
VVVVVVViewer

I think the truly shocking thing about this show for me... is the revelation of art world prejudics and biases playing out onscreen.

Only young artists are left... a woman with implants who continually exploits herself (the saddest form of exploitation) get praised for a nude painting (altho I do applaud Bill for essentially saying Miles save her this week)....

But a guy who was uncomfortably vulnerable at his partner's urging (who later throws him under the bus and then says "he could have given her more"... what? given her more...? isn't she responsible for her own work of art? or crap in this case?) is eliminated... I guess only nubile young women should be vulnerable with their bodies.

ANd also... I completely lost respect for Peregrine on this show...she revealed her true colors and is no better than Miles at climbing over people and then throwing them under the bus.

Kind of sad really how it's all playing out...

Anya
Anya

The fact that Miles and Jackie won grossed me out because Miles' manipulative behaviour was disgusting, and I wish he hadn't gotten rewarded for it. artschool-pretentiousness & all aside, he really showed himself to be a jerk. And the fact that the judges still take Jackie's art seriously is disappointing- every week she pretends to be interested in criticizing voyeurism and the male gaze when she obviously lives for male attention...plus, that painting? that wasn't even a good painting. it was totally dead colorwise, mark-making-wise, everything. bleh. I can't believe anyone could look at that and say it was interesting rather than a boring exhibitionist cliche. Honestly, the only reason I watch the show at all is Abdi. he's an alum of my high school and I walked by a six-or-seven foot figure painting of his every day for four years, and it makes us all proud that he's getting exposure- he really deserves to. The central concept of the show, though ("Go make great art in 24hrs or less so that we can market a tv show about it to the american public!!") seems sort of problematic. I just don't think you can stick an art competition into the same box as a competition of food or haircuts or clothes, but that's what the show is doing, in my opinion. Last night was disappointing overall, but as long as Abdi's on you'll have the entire Carver Center community watching, haha

WHY?!?!
WHY?!?!

Bill, I remain confused as to WHY the judges appreciate something they don't understand. I do admire how they verbally have the courage to admit their ignorance, but is this what makes it into galleries in New York? Miles creates drywall and pours tar. There's a fellah on MTV's Nitro Circus that used to do that for a living but is now more entertaining when he rides a big wheel. All of the contestants should have been punished after this 'challenge.' Now airing the punishment would have been good TV. This is just painful. Thanks!

mc
mc

Maybe after he fact, the judges can view all the footage and see how Miles out and out manipulated Jackie into showing her body AGAIN..how Nicole and Abdi had no clue what they were doing and how pretentious and self-serving Peregrine was. The clip about her and the girls talking about Mark was shameful. They criticized and ridiculed him for asking her to pose naked as an angel..but have no problem with Jaci taking a photo of herself masturbating...so Miles can use it later for the same reason. There seems to be an agenda here, as with all these shows that leaves the viewers wondering if they are being manipulated and that the outcome has long ago been decided. Won't be watching it again, or any other season.

Farce
Farce

The only "cliche" on the show is the judging.

Lizzieforyou
Lizzieforyou

The guest judge Ryan is nice to look at for sure, but where are the women artist judges? Tall white guys are nice, but so is variety and differing points of view. How are the guest judges chosen I wonder?

Kevin C
Kevin C

Jaclyn is coming across as a one trick pony with her body saving her each challenge. Would be nice to see if could do anything else. Peregrine's work last night was horrible...... With Miles work I failed to see any substance in it. It almost seems the judges have an idea who they want to win and continue on except maybe China.

cherokee viewer
cherokee viewer

I actually like the show. I think it would be better as some have said to not make this a competition and more of a reality show of watching the creative process all the way through trying to sell/show the art. This episode really brought forth the politics of the show. Mark was sent home for a literal concept, how more literal is a naked woman to represent female? Miles built a cold black wall how literal to represent his cold black male heart. Once again he made a fool of the judges and they just do not get it or he obviously knows a producer and they are promoting him. I would never represent Miles for a show. He makes a mockery of art because he can. That is how sad the high art community has become. Concept art has lost its edge and been replaced by low talent (not all, but in general). I feel bad for the actual artist that really think they are competing. Congratulations Miles you will win and you have shown the true colors of the concept art world. Now just a bunch of BS, where at one time it was a new way of creating and bringing forth a different way representation.

edavis
edavis

Your rationalization for the "winners" is cringeworthy. Fair to Jaclyn? When does she NOT remove her clothing? Okay that last team challenge when she couldn't strip for an outdoor installation project. It's become a predictable joke I make money on every week.

Seriously nobody did a good job. Not one person. Not one team. The "winner" wasn't so much a winner as "not the worst".

Miles is a one-note wonder whose act you are all buying. No surprise there to be honest. He's molded himself and his supposed angst to fit your ideal of an "artiste". In another era he'd have a beret.

What about either of their pieces said anything about man/woman or the relationship of their opposing natures? The artist's "statements" end up being cringeworthy Elmer Fuddish on-the-fly rationalizations. And you all buy in. And offer up your WEAK criticisms. WEAK.

Alex at least literally put it out there and you blasted him for it. Wait -wait....his interpretation seemed really close to Jaclyn's....but he's obese and a man...so.... wow, no...it couldn't be that you are all so transparently shallow could it? Not on tv...

It's going to take me some time to recover from the shock.

Excuse me.

lbw
lbw

I have decided that I have no idea of what great art is. I'm still trying to figure out what it is that Miles does that is SO full of feeling that it "speaks" to the judges. This week he built a couple of walls and punched them with his fist. I guess it's a refreshing change from sleeping. And while I'm voicing my opinion, Jaclyn has a great body, but her phony modesty is extremely annoying. Just venting...

the oc
the oc

Dude...you guys are so easily swayed by a coupla boobs. Playboy is high art, no? You show your true colors when you keep Jaclyn over the other artists. Tsk Tsk...

Marjorierose
Marjorierose

First let me state that I am a huge fan of Work of Art !! Now flipping the coin > I am a very disappointed fan. Some of your best real artist have been sent home , as previouly stated by fern . I agree to always disagree when it comes to art but really > you have failed to let your viewing public experience the real world of ART. We are a viewing public, who many do not have the college degrees that give us the knowledge of knowing what half of you are even talking about !! I had and still have such high hopes for this show to succeed but it needs some major tweaking. I was very disappointed that Mark was sent home. Mark was oviously uncomfortable with Peregrines ideas but chose to go along with HER ideas . I can only imagine what he would have created for Heaven if left on his on. Jackie will soon be getting a call from Playboy > Her body is great > but for those of us who just love all kinds of art > this still has me confused what her talent really is ?? I love Abdi !!! 90 % of the viewers can understand his passion !! Miles is very good also > I can't believe I get what he does ;o) I am hoping for another season > Maybe I will be pick for a contestant !!!! You think anyone would appreciate my Folkart ??

Viewer3000
Viewer3000

Ok, people! You need to remember that not one of the contestants are professionals in the true sense of the word. If they were, they would not be trying to make a name for themselves here. So I say "LIGHTEN UP" a little. The show is good for what it is. Trying to find the next good artist. I will continue to watch it, although I am now convinced it is rigged because Jaclyn picked the male/female paint tube. I am sick of all them inflating her ego. It is too large as it is!

robwb
robwb

This show demonstrates what is wrong with the art world. Miles gets praised in and out of this show and he really does NOTHING. He builds a wall, sells an idea and it becomes art. No, art is not merely a concept. It is an idea or concept that has been applied to a creative skill. Which, Miles has not yet demonstrated. Yes, Peregrines work this week and other weeks is crap. It's a failure of a show until they get some real artists to make real critical comments and provide decent mentoring in where to go. Heaven/Hell piece was the best one of all. Mark though had the better idea, but got talked out of it by Peregrine. Then she went and ruined a really good photo with glitter and cigarettes.

Kathryn Usher
Kathryn Usher

It was hard to see Mark's personal piece of art cause him to be eliminated.

As a self taught artist based in Louisiana I like to think what I would do each week for the challenges.

This week "Heaven and Hell" left me struggling. All I could think of was the last days of my 86 year old grandmother as she struggled with the dying process. She was so confused and kept asking if her parents were alive. And there was this incredible loud wind outside the house that kept blowing. So maybe I'd paint a wooden box black and sit a digital recorder inside so an audio loop would continually play the sound of wind blowing and a frail old woman's voice asking "Is momma and daddy here? Momma. Daddy. Are you here?" Perhaps I'd title it "Heaven and Hell."