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I want to address the little talk I had with Caroline and Jacqueline before our last dinner at the Lancaster Estate. If you’re wondering why I asked so many questions about what went on in their conversations with Teresa, I will tell you. We all spent a great deal of time on this trip trying to understand and sort out our relationships. Some relationships were on the mend and others were fractured. This was true for each and every one of us. Here we were, all together, trying to make a go of it, each in our own way. I felt that I needed to understand the dynamics of what was going on so that I could be supportive and compassionate to everyone. That’s just me, I’m a libra and I constantly try to find balance.
This brings me to our last dinner. Sometimes I need to see things played back, because I want to be sure of what I heard or didn’t hear at that dinner. The fact that I was left out of my cousin’s toast after I had tried so hard with her was a disappointment at best. If you were there, you knew it was a deliberate snub. You could cut the tension with a knife. I was embarrassed, but I wasn’t going to let it ruin my evening or cause a scene that would ruin anyone else’s evening. Once again Teresa’s actions speak volumes. So at this point I would like to offer my own toast, “In Vino, Veritas (In Wine Is Truth).”
Kathy as sweet as you are,why did you bring all the bs about Carolyn " the old great wise one " and Theresa. Clearly Carolyn dosen't want to hear anything Teresa has to say so why bother? She is a trouble maker who really sits back waiting to hurt Teresa. So what she sells stories. Has she really said anything that caused harm like marked people for life?
Love the Wakile family! Kathy is classy and beautiful...Rich is a crack up and the kids are gorgeous!!!!
Kathy - in my opinion you really SAVED Theresa's skin during her big argument with Caroline. SHE owes you an apology for putting her hands on you and yanking you by your jaw over and over again . You calmly kept telling her to stop. I think everyone including your husband was shocked. You could have fought her back or screamed out OUCH or yelled for help - but you did not. What she did to you could have very easily escalated into a physical fight. But you maintained composure. I applaud you for your behavoir because Theresa doesn't seem to understand you can't put your hands on other people. So far she has flipped a table, shoved Andy Cohen, and now yanked your jaw. YOU ARE THE GOOD COUSIN. I bet the other woman would have immediately pushed her away or challanged her had she done that to them.
Kathy Keep your head high. You are a class act. I would love to have you in my circle of friends!!!!
Kathy~ I just love you and your hubby..he cracks me up....you two are very cool and classy.
I was hurting for you when that other person snubbed you in the toast....that was so rude and uncalled for!!!
Keep your head up..you are a joy to watch!!!
Kathy I adore you and your family. From my living room, it seems like you are just trying to be supportive of your cousin and Joe. While I understand Teresa is your family, I would definately not be having her or her cheating husband for dinner. She is a walking cliche'...it is really disturbing to watch. Hang in there! Rich is the BOMB! All the Best!
I've read the comments about the toast. Maybe it is just ignorance on Theresa's part (I personally don't believe it, because that's the kind of thing she does and then says she didn't do anything). However, when you are with a group of people you've spent a week with, if you are going to say anything it would have been nice to say what a great time she had with everyone and what a good trip it was and leave it at that. That would have been appropriate. This trip wasn't planned for Joey and Theresa, she may have felt that was her reason for going, but that isn't the case. She certainly could have told Melissa and Joey in private how happy she was that they were getting closer and what a good time she had. It's poor ettiquete to single out two or three people at a table where several people are sitting. To call out someones name like Caroline because of a special occassion is appropriate, but the way she did it was crap. Ofcourse, has anyone accused Theresa of having any class or ettiquete? Hang in there Kathy!
Kathy, Kathy, Kathy.... I am trying sooo hard to like you. Mostly, because you seem like such a good mother and I love to see that, you seldom do anymore, especially on television. The anger that you keep perculating towards Teresa is strange. You are her cousin! You should have left when Joey and Melissa left. Caroline at one time "loved" Teresa, she doesn't any more does she? Watch out, "the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior". Stick to your cousin. If you're old school, respect your family. From my perspective the toast wasn't intended to hurt your feelings, Teresa was concentrating on mending her relationship with her brother and Melissa. And... you sure give your share of jabs and hateful comments in the interviews, just like that "mean girl". We only see what Bravo lets us see, but it appears Teresa is financially supporting her family, try to be loving, forgiving, patient, kind and generous. Be a lady, a real lady. Remember... watch your back, Caroline Manzo has a mean spirit. Watch carefully, the things Caroline says on every episode is very poisonous, the entire season has been about her hating Teresa and wanting everyone else to hate her too. She has the nerve to speak badly about her to you and Melissa. I would be very hurt if my cousin and my sister-in-law sat around and listend to a person outside the family speak in that way about me. And... by the way.... I'm first generation Italian too! Didn't you hear Caroline say "off the boat mentality"? Did you realize she was talking about your parents? She was sure talking about mine and I didn't appreciate that statement.
Kathy, after watching tonight's episode I can say that you totally instigated the fight between Teresa and Caroline. Honestly you should have only spoke to her about what you were feeling, "being left out." However you skated over that and brought up subjects that truly aren't your business. Then you sat you butt down and watched it all happen. I think that you are just jealous of the relationship Teresa is trying to mend with her sister-in-law and Jacqueline. Shame on you! How insecure can you possibly be. I guess you felt that you needed to be center of attention and starting drama seemed to be your way in. I used to truly love you on this show, but now you've left a very bad taste in my mouth. Start trouble and then just sit back and watch it all play out.
Did your husband apologize to Teresa for the mean comment he made that he was just kidding about? You know, kind of like how Teresa apologized to Caroline a/b the cookbook comment that Caroline took offense even though Teresa said she too was just kidding. Of course you remember the apology that Caroline refuses to accept. Hypocrites.
I know family is family no matter if you are siblings or cousins but the relationship between Teresa, Joe G and Melissa is a lot more strained and should be #1 priority to mending. Teresa has a lot of making up to do with those two. What did she do to you for you to be so angry at her? You invited her to your tasting and before the event even started you and Rich start bad mouthing her in the kitchen before the girl even had a chance to show up. Did she show up? Yep! So she didn't mention you in the toast, get over it. She mentioned her brother and sister in law who she is finally getting along with, the people who invited her on the trip and she mentioned Caroline bc of her birthday. How long did you all want this toast to be? Was she supposed to mention each person at the table one by one?
Exactly! She didn't say anything about Vito either! I wonder if his feelings were hurt too!
you ,richie,rosie and your children seem so well balanced.i love richey's sense of humor! and everyone can see how much he loves you and the children. you are refreshing to this group..i luv caroline and she will always go to bat for her friends & family..hang in there!
You sure have that right! Caroline will go to bat for her friends and family! The sad thing is she c omes out swinging that bat with supreme authority and she is RIGHT at all times. I'd hate to be in the path of that bat and thank goodness I will never have the opportunity to have her swing that bat in my direction.
Kathy, all we keep hearing from you is your whining to Caroline & Jac about Teresa not trying with you. We NEVER see YOU TRY with HER???!! Why don't you call her & invite her out to lunch??? It will only work though, if you can keep the passive-aggressive (I know the 2 words your fans don't like) to yourself! And keep it real between you & your cousin.
i can not even believe that anyone who is sane would tell you to stick by theresa and not caroline??? WTF? caroline is the only person who sees your pain and efforts to be nice, and stands up to call out theresa for being heartless and backstabbing and yet these hillbillies still think caroline is the bad guy... whatever
i just want to say you are a breath of fresh air on this show
i love that your family is so strong and happy
Hmmmmm... hillbillies? Caroline does a good job of calling names too doesn;t she? Like "off the boat mentality". No wonder you can't see the forest for the trees! Caroline doesn't give a hoot about Kathy, she hates Teresa, all she cares about is forcing wedges between Teresa and whoever she can. I just can not even believe that a "sane" person can't see this!
You are a class act. Reading some of these comments makes me think that I am not even watching the same show as half these bimbos. Anybody with more [emotional] intelligence than your average salt shaker would see how terrible and toxic Theresa is to you and pretty much everybody else she comes into contact with.
Exactly! "Hillbillies" and immigrants with "off the boat mentality" and we just can't possibly be "sane"!
You seem like great fun to me. Your husband makes me cringe at times but so does my own. You and your daughter seem to have such a sweet relationship. And your son is a doll! I wish he were on more. Something about him that is pure charm.
I don't think she sees that side of herself, the sneaky, snarky side. She keeps saying it's all teresa's fault! Right? Do you remember when Teresa said Kathy didn't invite her to be in her wedding party? Kathy has a mean side those big baby blues try to blink away. It's too bad, I realy like her relationship with her children. I would love her if she would quit being so hateful towards Teresa and putting so much weight on Caroline's opinion. Kathy has an agenda.
Kathy I just adore you, you are classy, sassy, and great mother, and really just "good people"! Oh and Beautiful! Theresa, is really something, just sayin!
Kathy you are nice and polite in spite of the drama....stay true and forget all the Theresa lovers as they are the ones looking for all the drama like Wonderful World of Wrestling....some people just need that rush. I think you and Caroline could be great friends.You are both the voices of Reason, maybe a little maturity helps.
Kathy ...love you..ignore all the haters. Teresa is what she is..selfish and shallow. She probably didnt forget you intentionally, shes just naturally an inconsiderate person. You are smart, beautiful, and have two great kids. You can cook and you have a great relationship with your family. Forget about Teresa. Shes just not worth it. Hate watching her
Sorry Kathy .....Teresa didn't get the memo..
Everyone it's the Kathy and Rich show now!
Now everyone hold your glasses up!
I just toasted you...feel better? Now move on lady!
(The thing is I didn't even liked Teresa at all until you and Melissa came on).
@endless2579 Now, THAT'S FUNNY!!!! So true, that they DO think it's all about them! Thanks for the chuckle.....
Oh what I meant to say was I see why she had to hold your chin, I highly doubt you can look her in the eye, with all you and your husband have said and done. And you clearly know what that is, as well as a good majority of the viewers. You and your husband feel so free to talk to the camereas, and others behind her back, but face to face, not so much.
@valgal62 oh gimme a break. Teresa was standing over Kathy looked down and saw Kathy on her phone. The fury in her face and voice just exploded and that's why she grabbed Kathy's face. Just like a mother would do. Then because Teresa is incapable of admitting that she is wrong she tried to convince Kathy that she never grabbed her face but only gently chucked her under the chin to get her attention. Kind of like a naughty child would.
Kathy...What act of kindness have you shown Teresa, that she should have to raise her glass to you or Rich?
Kathy, what you should have done when Caroline was being her usual hateful self, was raise your glass HIGHER to the toast Teresa gave, especially since she indicated she & her brother & SIL were in a better place. But instead, you turn on your cousin AGAIN & jump on Caroline's HATE TRAIN!
I am SO sick of you always playing the victim and trying to constantly play both sides. Maybe Teresa would LIKE you if you were a LOYAL cousin to her instead of agreeing with all the disgusting things Caroline is constantly saying about her?? You pretend youre being the "bigger person" by allowing Teresa to become close to her sister in law and her brother again... But in all actuality you and Caroline WONT allow her to be close to anyone without going to them and trash talking her behind her back. Honestly... if you were MY cousin I wouldn't trust or like you either!! I think its hilarious your opening line on the show is "We're old school.. we believe in loyalty" when you are the most disloyal person I have EVER SEEN. Try being a good family member and then come whining to the interview chair when that doesnt work for you. Until then quit playing the innocent victim when all you are is a fame hungry two-faced hypocrite. Honestly if you would just open your eyes and realize how awful Caroline is and be loyal to your cousin then I would actually believe you are a good person and I really would like you. And whats funnier is I'm not even a TERESA fan. I just see so much hypocritical actions from you and it makes me sick to my stomach. Quit trying to be a mini-me of Caroline and be a good person!
Kathy I think you are a nice person getting lost in this drama, trust me the best thing a person can do is to stay true to them-self. You are being influenced by Caroline and Melissa and you try to convince the viewers that you are this peace maker, maybe deep within that is who you are, I can believe it BUT lately you are overly sensitive about everything that Teresa says and does. I thought it was tacky for you to point out that Teresa had recipes in the book that was your Mother's, isn't that her aunt ? Well, obviously recipes run through the family, I think that you felt a bit insecure, jealous maybe and so you had to go there.
Teresa is a strong woman with a mission, she is driven and no one is going to stop her so you just need to do you and be happy for her while you focus on your dreams. I think you are a great mother, it is evident in your children, good for you. I also think that when you told Teresa that you took her child who was alone when the fight broke out, you were looking for a pat on the shoulder but she reacted angrily instead because as you and all Mothers know, we hate someone to imply that we were neglectful of a child. I am sure you did not mean it but I understand, and think you can also, she is only being a mother who strives for perfection with her kids. She needs to relax and not harp on it because things happen to all of us that make us get caught up in a frenzy and we end up looking like we failed our children. For that incident, I dont blame you, she over reacted BUT since you know she is so sensitive, there was no need to go there again on the beach when you said that you won't leave your children to run a restaurant. What were you thinking? You were not. Note to self, think twice before you speak and it is not about having to please her but when you know a person and what makes them tick, you deal with them to suit for peace sake.
I would also caution you to watch out for Caroline, don't you see what she is doing? She hates Teresa so much that she is going to manipulate anyone she can in order to hurt her. None of you could ever treat her family member the way she treats Teresa, she will take your heads off so why do all of you sit around like wimps and let her mistreat Teresa, not nice. Don't you think that if you all were to speak up and show some character she won't turn loose on you too? Well maybe that is what you are all afraid of but it makes you all look weak. Watch how she could not contain herself when you were going off on Teresa, she was loving every bit of it.
Finally, I like your husband but he is at times very nasty about Teresa and Joe. I am a very blunt and outspoken person too and I admire those who are BUT he needs to wash his mouth out with soap and not be so harsh with his comments, it is disrespectful to your cousin and whether they are right or wrong, it is not nice to say such mean things about others. I love your kids, they are beautiful and smart.
In my opinion, Tre purposely snubbed Kathy during the toast which I found very mean-spirited. I know Tre is still angry w/Kathy over "cookie gate", but even if Kathy meant the cookie comment as a "dig" at Tre (and I still don't believe Kathy meant any harm), Tre was much more disrespectful with her toast.
Tre is the one who always preaches about moving on from the past...in fact, when Melissa confronted Tre about badmouthing the other housewives in magazines, Tre shrugged that once the mags are printed, there's nothing to be done about it and "there's no use crying over spilt milk"......oh, I get it: Tre is allowed to bash everyone and they need to accept it and never hold her accountable; on the other hand, Tre "I never hold a grudge" Giudice can go on and on about a slight (real or perceived) forever after! I see that it's only TRE'S past mistakes that need to be forgotten, not everyone else's. Tre said that once you clear the air w/someone, you should move past the incident...hmm, is that why Tre is whining to Melissa and Jacqueline about Kathy's "malicious" comments and having the nerve to say that she says nothing snarky about Kathy...WHAT? She throws Kathy under the bus constantly!
What really gets me is that Tre went running to Kathy for support/sympathy after her falling out w/Jac and Caroline. Despite recently being hurt by Tre, Kathy was there for her and wanted to move forward. Now that Tre feels things getting better w/Mel and Jac, she's tossing Kathy aside......I knew Tre was going to dismiss Kathy once she didn't need her anymore, and sadly, that prediction was correct.
I do feel bad for Tre regarding her terrible husband and the way he treats her, but that's no excuse for Tre to take things out on others. "Juicy" acts/speaks horribly towards her and I wish, for a change, that HE was the target for her anger.
Kathy you are not a "victim" your that wonderful person who wants everyone in their circle to get along and unfortunatley your efforts sometimes are not seen, my father always said "the squeeky wheel get's the oil"! So of course Teresa picks on you, It doesn't matter if she meant to leave you out of the toast or not, it still hurt especially when she came to you many months ago. Please know a majority of the fans see you for a wonderful mother, great homemaker (which is very hard work), and you have a wonderful husband and partner. I love the size of your deserts, that's the way to lose weight give yourself a fantastic treat in the right portion you don't need a whole cake to feel good.
6th AND final time trying to post. You totally took that "snub" re: the toast way out of line. As others have stated Teresa toasted who needed to be toasted: the hosts, HER BROTHER & MELISSA, whom she was sincerely happy to have a good time with (umm....remember last season you stated Teresa had to fix her relationship with HER brother before you), and finally Caroline for her birthday. Your tag line makes me laugh - how hypocritical - "we're old school, we believe in respect". Really, did you tell your crude husband that? His last comment re: Joe & Teresa was SO utterly uncalled for, along with the rest of them. I KNOW Teresa has her faults, but for YOU and YOUR husband to continually bash Teresa's fans on Twitter by calling them an "army of idiots" and Richie JUST today tweeting "watch the crazy get crazier" about Teresa is just too much for me. I have since stopped following you and your nasty husband. You are no where near a Saint, Kathy, I got your number.
Here's the thing...if Teresa had mentioned you in the toast then Richie would feel snubbed and everyone would be all up in arms. If she mentioned the Manzo boys, Lauren would feel snubbed. If she mentioned EVERYONE, she would be accused of wanting to dominate the toasting and camera time. What I'm getting at is Teresa can't win for losing - she will always be wrong in the rest of the crew's eyes especially since this seems to be the marching orders Bravo has given the rest of the cast.
macombmommyI have to say that your posts drive me to drink. I am not sure why you can not see normal reasoning. I do not think that Teresa was out of line with her toast. kathy is a two face. She speaks so badly about her own flesh and blood on national television. Rich is so disrespectful. And the reason is all about money.
Kathey sucks soooooooo bad! Glad Kathy and Joe Gorga are no relatives of mine.
Kathy, you are most definately the sweetest, honest, and most respectful housewife out of all the franchise. Please do not allow Teresa to defray you from your image as a wonderful mother, woman, and friend. Everyone sees her for what she is: an evil, backstabbing, two faced fame hungry person. Stay true to yourself and your wonderful beautiful family, whom i adore. You are an angel from God, and "Tre" is the one missing out on your relationship, love and friendship!! Chin up, because as I said, you are the best!!!~~Caari in Bama xoxoxo
Carri-in-Bama That is a joke- She is far from it!!! A little jealousy makes her mean and back stabbing. With her for a cousin... who needs an enemy!!
Love you Kathy...U do keep it real...your a great Mom and wife..don't let ANYONE make u feel bad about yourself..T came 2 you when she wanted her family because the crap hit the fan with her friends of 15 YEARS and u excepted her with open arms...but in the real world MANY relationships have issues...NO ONE IS PERFECT..
Your behavior over the toast is petty. Find something else to do. You are boring. Hating Teresa is getting old.
I really think Teresa just wasn't thinking when she didn't toast you, she was I think thinking of the ones she had really bad problems with and was trying to mend things . I knopw she and you have had issues but not in the capacity she had with the others, also her marriage I think is suffering and she needs to get rid of Joe
You are one classy lady Kathy and I love watching you, Richie and your kids on HWNJ!!
Don't let Theresa get under your skin --- you have way more class then that. I think the viewers are "onto" Theresa and Joe's FAR FROM PERFECT MARRIAGE! Talk about
delusional!!!!!!!! We also would enjoy seeing more of your terrific sis, Rosie :)
I guess Teresa should have toasted everyone at the table, including all the camera people, makeup artists and the hairdressers...get over yourself kathy
selena78 And didn't Teresa say in the toast that she enjoyed being with "everyone"? Doesn't "everyone" include Kathy?
No, however it would have been nice to "toast" the whole table! She's rude, period!
Tre is extremely jealous of you Kathy......you have a wonderful, stable family and you can ACTUALLY cook!! I have watched this show since the beginning and have NEVER seen Tre go as far to boil water, yet she sells cookbooks.....Hmmm.
Your food and deserts look amazing, I hope you move forward and do something with your talents!