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Ep 21: Bravotv.com's Associate Editor makes sense of the many fights in the Season 5 finale.

on Oct 1, 20120

Oh hello sweet RHONY fans. Eighteen episodes later, we’ve seen so much -- faces in bidets, toaster oven fights, massive debauchery in St. Barths, Google searches, and beachside meltdowns. But how does it all end? How do we close the books on Season 5? With more fighting than you could imagine as it turns out. Let’s try to make sense of it all shall we.

The Queens of the Court
We open, of course, with a ping pong tournament. Because why wouldn’t we? This season has provided so many delightfully bizarre moments that I find it completely non-shocking that we have a table tennis tournament. Frankly, with the outlandish events of this season if Chairman Mao had appeared to play the tournament for all of Forrest Gump's Dr. Peppers, I wouldn’t have been surprised.

We all knew that this would be the first time Aviva and Ramona would see each other post-George bust-up, but I was far more concerned about the ladies’ ping pong prowress. Let’s be honest -- everyone thought LuAnn had this in the bag right? She just seemed like the clear favorite based on demeanor -- and prior experience with ping pong tables -- alone. Of course I should not be surprised that the Singer family tennis dynasty was one to mess with. We’ve seen them destroy enough ‘Wives in the Hamptons (on the court silly) to know this was their camp-style sport to lose. But then the dark horse, Heather “Holla” Thomson rose to the occasion. I hope the trophy was just engraved with the words “holla.”

Of course it wasn’t all tiny shorts and odd mustached men. When Aviva got a chance to bend Heather’s husband’s ear she of course brought up the Ramona situation. Heather is less than pleased with this talking point. Let it go!
Can't everyone just get along for the sake of the pong gods!

26 comments
mariael
mariael

How much of the fighting is programmed - It's hard to believe these women are so trite and have such empty lives that they only have time to host some inane party where they bicker about the most trivial of things. It seems the only way to avoid a fight is to never open one's mouth. Or are their real lives so boring that the producers have to have something going on. Who invites all their "friends" on a seemingly weekly trip to some lovely destination and then spend the whole time in cat fights? Sure you can come up with better things to film! It is a guilty pleasure to watch but watching them fight is growing old. Kind of like some of the old comedy shows that started out great and ended up with people yelling at each other all the time. Grow up ladies and show us what you are really about - if you are really about anything.

cupoftea
cupoftea

Aviva has problems out of proportion for the show. Between her phobias and agitation concerning Ramona and Sonja I do not see her continuing on. Her father will also not be missed. He is a liability any way you look at it. Happy to see snarky Reid leave also in light of his fat cougar comment. For the good of the show, Ramona and Sonja's drinking should be curtailed. The St Barts vacation caught their continuous inebriation on film. They went from comical to depressing (crying in the bathroom). I like both of them, but feel Sonja is floundering and in need of a steady job. Forget about the toaster oven and seek employment. Her personal life appears to be unstable, though she has a daughter to raise. At least now her relationship with her ex husband has improved. The Countess Luann seems to be vacant when it comes to making decisions regarding her business ventures. Getting caught in a big lie at St. Barts has not ruined her relationship with Jacques and for that she should be over joyed. She could improve her life immeasurable by buckling down and applying herself to a job...right now she is floundering. Carole is a little back biting on her talking head segments and should instead be more forthcoming with the other housewives. Otherwise she seems to be the stand alone star of this season. Both her personal and professional life are outstanding. Heather can be a little argumentative, but seems very upbeat most of the time. Her family and business life appear to be in harmony. I enjoy her and along with Carole seem to be the strongest housewives. I enjoyed this franchise despite Avivas out of control rages and look forward to next year's Housewives of New York.

susan.m.carter.90
susan.m.carter.90

The "lost footage" show was just more and more and more of Aviva's self-centered crap. SO tired of that woman, and her father.  PLEASE don't bring her back....I love Carole and Heather, and I'll DVR the show and FF thru Aviva if you absolutely must have her.

nicky1
nicky1

lost footage? more like no footage, all of most of peoples segments were repeats and all of carole's were repeats as well

hannah79
hannah79

The reunion was boring.  Maybe because the reunion on RHONJ was so dramatic.

 

tedandteddy
tedandteddy

I MISS JILL! she was an original. I didn't watch this season at first b/c she wasn't on it. I have been a fan of Oc since day one. so I have seen all the housewives from begining to end. Aviva is SO annoying. At least bring back Jill. At least jill didn't talk about her phobias all season and was defending Ramona and looking like a complete moran introducing her gross dad to everyone. Please bring jill back!! Cindy was extremly boring and Kelly always said she was being weird for the cameras. Alex was an a-hole along w her husband and RAMONA! Oh my god! I can't belive they're people out there that think jill is a A-hole and not Ramona. they are both A-holes! I don't get how you can keep one and not the other. If Jill was on this season it would've been so much better!!  

ESinAZ
ESinAZ

Oh my..is anything Jill Zarin's fault?  Seriously, comparing her relationship with Bethany to Bethany's relationship with her husband? Andy looks like he wants to send her home early.

adrian0603
adrian0603

Andy should invite Alex back just to send Botox Jill over the edge...all Botox Jill needs is one little push. Please oh please push her off the edge!

sweetj
sweetj

I think having Carole on the show made LuAnn more interesting. I find LuAnn's life with Jacques boring but this season LuAnn was more human and less stiff and boring. Ramona is Ramona you either like her or you don't... I happen to like her but she does make me cringe a lot though. I like the interaction between Sonja and Ramona but it gets old watching them. Carole is great! She communicates by writing and her blogs are fun to read. She nailed LuAnn and I have been waiting for someone to wake LuAnn up for years. LuAnn didn't appreciate Carole's blogs but they really did help LuAnn be a much more interesting person to watch. My favorite housewife is now Heather. I think she is very cool and brings a professional dimension to the show that I would love to see more of. I also like the friendship developing between her and Carole. Sonja is lovely and I am so sorry she seems to be suffering so much but she is clueless when it comes to business. I know Heather tried to help her but Sonja was acting too much like a spoiled princess to let her in. I felt bad for both of them. Heather because she basically was wasting precious time and Sonja because she was floundering and completely out of her element. I would love to see Sonja have a happy ending... Aviva, please don't bring her back... Please! I found myself fast forwarding through a lot of her scenes with Ramona because she was so out-of-line and I felt like Ramona was being relentlessly abused verbally by Aviva. Please don't get me started on her father, it was so disgusting to watch him I couldn't get to fast-forward fast enough. Please don't bring them back. It seems to me that both Aviva and her father have some deep seeded problems and the show is shining a light on them which will only make it harder on them. They both need therapy and I personally won't watch them become unhinged like Kelly B. Please don't bring them back!

Reallynow12
Reallynow12

How to describe this season - hum - interesting.  Sonja is still my favorite -  I think she would do well to put some distance between herself and Ramona.   I actually agree with Aviva, Ramona looks better standing next to a drunk Sonja!  Ramona is a fake.  I do think she lacked class when she had George thrown out!  Shame on her.  Ramona also spends a good deal of time crying about how she was abused - seriously?  She needs to get over it!  I think she is just a troublemaker and she has a knack for turning the fans her way - this is how she beat Jill!  That said, I also like Luann.  I think she really messed up in St Barts and will have to pay for her behavior.  That said, I don't think she did anything wrong with the "clothes" deal, Carole get over it.  Carole wants to come off as polished and cool and trust me she isn't!  I think she is sneaky....  What can I say about Aviva, I think she tried to apologize but Ramona was being Ramona.  Do I think Aviva went to far - yes!  She needed to move on to a new topic but after all this was her first season!  Heather what can I say - you played it well with Ramona so she had no choice but be nice you - watch out!

MaryA807
MaryA807

Pl ease bring back Alex! Please,Please get ride of Aviva! She is a spoild brate. She married  he likes Harry for his position and wealth.I no she would not have married Reid if he was common-poor as she seems too look down her very long nose at everyone.I am so.....Glad you got ride of Jill Z. She and Aviva are nothing with out their RICH husbands,and they use Charity events only to bring attention too themselefes. They are the Bigist phoenys! Love,XOXO Mary!

KimPiper1
KimPiper1

keep Carole and Heather !!! for sure its gotta be the end of Ramona, Sonja, and Luann, BORING BORING BORING - time to sunset those4 gals!! Aviva - could be ok with new RONY with Carole and Heather - lets get a new look on ROHNY!!

allydachie
allydachie

If George is going to be guesting on the show with his daughter, it seems only fit that he has a blog on bravo. I mean it's not Aviva's fault that he behaves indecently towards the women of the show. So please consider that I want to tell him off and have no voice to. Treating the women with no respect at all. I was offended by his behavior with Carole, Ramona and her husband. Voice him on Bravo Blogs

oystergirl
oystergirl

I have to say, this season was better because of the new ladies.  I got pretty sick of watching Kelly's craziness and am glad Bravo saw fit to end her 15 minutes.  It was sad to watch Jill do what she did to Bethanny last year, but it ended well for B.  

 

Regarding the new ladies, I'm not crazy about Aviva.  I was open to her story and found her honesty about her phobias intriguing.  However, she does grate on one's nerves with her constant nagging about perceived insults.  I guess Bravo felt that someone needed to fill Kelly's slot. Ramona and Sonja are still my favorites.  RHONY is the best of the all the other Housewives.  The RHONJ women are the worst!

cehemise
cehemise

The Reunion?  We have three women, composed and in control, on one sofa, and three women, chattering incessantly, pointing fingers, and being disruptive.  Who is who?

 

LuAnn:  Resentful that there is a woman with a higher title than hers, and sees herself above being called on...anything, especially asking for clothes.   Refuses to let criticism of herself drop, and has a deep need to criticize and belittle other women.   Oh, and she brought the guy home.

 

Ramona:  Carries her childhood tramas into every relationship she has on camera.  Unreasonable, talking incessantly, and sees herself as the eternal victim, when actually, she's the instigator.

 

Sonja:  Highly stressed, holding on tightly to past life, and engaging in reckless behavior unsuitable for a woman of her age.  Sense of entitlement steers her in the wrong direction.

 

Heather:  Calm, cool, collected, and able to cut through the nonsense to explain situations.

 

Aviva:  Genuinely sorry, but unable to finish a sentence when constantly talked over by Ramona (who wants to hold onto being the victim) and Sonja (following Ramona's lead).  Unused to being around women who live in a soap opera.

 

Carole:  Calm, cool, collected, and under attack for calling out LuAnn's solicitous behavior. Doubt LuAnn will let go of her resentment of Carole, who is much smarter, more sophisticated, more elegant, and with more manners.

cindyluwho2
cindyluwho2

Carole was especially wonderful.  I hope she won't get sick of it all and quit.

@dclcnm
@dclcnm

Wow! What a season! Luvin carole n heather...Aviva was a disappointment. Not many surprises w Sonya... Not many changes w Ramona either, still tellin it like it is and lookin for trouble every chance she gets. Overall I enjoyed it and became a "holla" and "razzy" fan

katdi0717
katdi0717

This was my favorite season of RHONY.  Heather and Carole were a great addition.  I haven't made up my mind about Aviva yet.

lynnwhitlock
lynnwhitlock

It would be interesting to have Aviva back next season seeing Bethenny's psychologist.  Aviva certainly does bring out the reality TV drama. 

lisacataldo
lisacataldo

 @tedandteddy Oh Ted, what are thinking.   Jill changed sooo much, with each season  - she got more and more mean, argumentative, fame-hungry, and self-obsessed,   I couldn't believe she was talking to Andy like that on WWH. Thank GOD they did not bring her back !   Her appearance on WWH confirmed all her negative characteristics - and you could see it on his face.   Thank YOu Andy and Bravo for getting rid of the toxicity !   RHNY is now a show we can enjoy again.

cavex2
cavex2

 @ESinAZ I had forgotten how much Jill annoyed me until I watched her complaining to Andy during WWHL.  I can NOT take another season of Jill.  That would be like locking me into a room with Aviva and Kelly.  

polishmom
polishmom

 @cehemise 

You hit the nail on the head.  Such true descriptions of all.

karynfl
karynfl

 @cehemise Wow - maybe we weren't watching the same show. My perceptions and observations about the women are almost the exact opposite of what you have described.

Barbarajean
Barbarajean

 @cehemiseI think you have your criticisms of the ladies all turned around or you are not seeing them for who they really are. I don't necessarily approve of Ramona or Sonja behaviour but they don't try to hide it. I think the other ladies are just too snooty and  unreal and have their own agenda for the future of the sho. 

jbenny
jbenny

 @@dclcnm Can't stand "holla" or "Yummie Tummie."  Heather can promote the liver charity as much as she wants, though.

cehemise
cehemise

 @Barbarajean

Not trying to hide bad behavior does not excuse it.

I find the three new ladies to be an improvement.  They're comfortable and interesting.